BSF and open source

tbateson's picture

Our school is starting to put together an Alternative Procurement Business Case (APBC) for ICT provision in BSF.

I am looking to other schools that may be looking at writing or have written an APBC.

Also looking to make a case for using Open Source software within the APBC.

So looking for inspiration and ideas :)

It might be worth contacting SiriusIT (http://www.siriusit.co.uk/) as they are Becta approved OSS supplier so understand the fun you can have with things like this.

Brian

I am involved with a school going through BSF. About six months ago, we explored this option and were advised (informally I think) that such applications were being discouraged, and no school in BSF had actually made a successful case despite several applications having been processed. Both the facts and the policy may have changed in the meantime, of course.

My advice would be to seek very specific advice from PFS and others on this before committing large amounts of time to a proposal. In particular I'd be looking for guidance on the scoring of proposals and the implicit and explicit critical success factors without which no application could succeed. If I recall correctly from the time we were considering it, the bar was being set very high in some areas which wouldn't be immediately obvious to a school preparing a proposal.

Needless to say, OSS is being used within BSF ICT provision, Bradford LA being one example, but no doubt there are others.

Best of luck - please let us know how you get on!

John

You might like to look at Leon's video of the Unconference discussion about BSF and Open Source, online at http://blip.tv/file/2538612

I'll post this onto the front page at some point, as I think it deserves a wider audience.

IanL's picture

I know of at least one school that did a successful "opt out". It's certain that you will be advised against but if you can show better value for money and you are prepaed to shout about it, it's rather difficult for them to stop you. They don't want schools to break ranks but equally they don't want headlines that say "Government bureaucracy vetoes school attempt to save money" just before a general election. If you are certain of the case and have the time to collect the evidence especially with an election coming up, you do have some chance.

tbateson's picture

Many thanks for the comments and updates. I am downloading the video file

I am hoping it will be easier to build a case against an incumbent LA and their ICT provider. Unlike the earlier waves that had to compete against a contract that had not begun the delivery phase.

We are in contact with a couple of schools that attempted this in the first wave of BSF. I am hoping that by starting this thread that other schools will want to join in and pool resources.

Tim

IanL's picture

If I were you, I would concentrate on building a case for your solution rather than a case against the LA and their ICT provider. Simply use them as a reference and show why your solution gives clearly better value and meets all the relevant criteria. You must be meticulous in demonstrating compliance with the criteria or you give them a reason to reject your solution.

tbateson's picture

Yes that is good advice. We are setting up meeting with the LA to try and get full disclusure on what that criteria will be. I imagine that will be a challenge.

Andrew Flowerdew's picture

I may be missing the point here, or perhaps it is specific to one LA, but there is nothing in BSF that says that opensource cannot be used.

In all the projects that I work on there is a general expectation that opensource should be used wherever appropriate. The one caveat to this is usually the central services and this is only because no one has come forward yet with a commercially sensible, educationally effective opensource solution that will take into account the rigorous Key Performance Indicators set out within the BSF contract. These KPIs often drive companies away from opensource as they are worried about potential penalties.

Most BSF companies - want to keep schools happy and moving forward but where there is a conflict in nearly all cases the school will win - in one case I know of the school made the provider uninstall their software and replace the software the school had been using. It needs a strong Head and an equally strong and knowledgeable LA but it can be done.

I would also caution going down the opt-out route. I do not know of many schools that can achieve this - there is a lot to go through and I would spend my efforts making the BSF provider work for YOU.

Andrew

IanL's picture

but there is nothing in BSF that says that opensource cannot be used.

It needs a strong Head and an equally strong and knowledgeable LA but it can be done.

So really you are saying BSF raises a significant barrier to change and innovation because of the complexity of the bureaucratic systems involved. Some people might consider that going it alone and getting back their autonomy was better than the prospect of a battle every time you wanted to change something which would likely end up in months of delay to get anything done. What is possible in theory and how things turn out in practice can be very different. Personally, I have no particular axe to grind but I could understand someone thinking in this way. Until you are doing it you really don't know how it will turn out so it's a risk as far as your organisation is concerned.

We were a long way down the road to an Alternative Case but unfortunately the finance for our school build was not found and in current circumstances is unlikely to reappear for at least 5 years. At the same time we were put under a great deal of pressure to join the managed service despite the lack of BSF.

The points made included
1) As a successful school we would make the contract more attractive to suppliers.
2) It would be so much better if all the schools used the same software. I have to say that one is trotted out quite a lot by LGFL and why on earth software uniformity should be seen as such a positive is beyond me!
3) You have to use a Becta framework LP. That is wrong in every sense you can think of and yet it is widely used by LAs to shoe horn schools into office DM systems that have been re-badged as a LP. OSS does not have to be procured because the software does not have a price. The case has to come from "best value'.

I could go on.

Anyway, we do not have to make an Alternative Case yet however I did read and study a great deal about it.

Here are some initial pointers from my work.

1) If the LEP/LA contract for earlier wave schools has not delivered, it does not improve your case. This is because so far as PFS is concerned the reason is that the LA did not procure properly or there is a material breach of contract. In either case, the fact of a poor early wave procurement does not have any effect on their case for managed services for all. They have been completely convinced of this need by a combination of factors including a large amount of input from "Industry partners".

2) You need to have your current systems professionally assessed and signed off by an appropriate IT professional. Assuming you have a set of systems in place, this will cost a thousand or so. I have such a person in place for us. If yiu do not have a setof systems then get the advice and get them in place.

3) You need legal advice to audit your case and look at your paper work carefully. They would also present your case if you wanted them to. This needs to be a professional in the right field. A high street practitioner from the governors is unlikely to have the right skill set and you need a large regional firm or a national firm. This will be fairly pricey but without it I would reckon you have little chance of successfully making a case. (I assume you have looked at the process and seen how rigged it is.). For instance, one reason for rejecting cases is that schools have not properly considered transfer of risk. An understanding of business risks and project management issues like this is likely to be expertise you need to buy in. If you look at the costs of managed services, it is worth investing some money in an attempt to avoid them "relieving you of the burden of procurement etc". They certainly seem to be relieving schools of the burden of their money, anyway.

4) You have looked at the time scales? They are tight and the process (effectively) gives the LA the last word.

There is lots more but this is just a forum.

 Brian Lockwood

IanL's picture

The points made included
1) As a successful school we would make the contract more attractive to suppliers.

So what royalty are they going to pay you for helping their marketing :-)

2) It would be so much better if all the schools used the same software. I have to say that one is trotted out quite a lot by LGFL and why on earth software uniformity should be seen as such a positive is beyond me!

If that is the case, why did BECTA not take the opportunity to standardise on Moodle nationally when they had the opportunity?

3) You have to use a Becta framework LP. That is wrong in every sense you can think of and yet it is widely used by LAs to shoe horn schools into office DM systems that have been re-badged as a LP.

The sad fact is that bureaucrats will put what is administratively convenient to them ahead of learning or best value.

They have been completely convinced of this need by a combination of factors including a large amount of input from "Industry partners".

Ironically the claim is usually that centrally negotiated deals have more clout in getting better value from suppliers. It seems that not only do we end up with worse value we also have to pay for complicated bureaucratic systems invented to underpin the privilege of paying more to be further locked into discredited monopolies.

tbateson's picture

Thanks for your helpful comments. Even though you are not needing an APBC, I am looking to partner with other schools that are using OSS to share the costs(ie time) of supporting these packages and reduce risk by proving that there is a genuine community process in developing an OSS infrastructure in schools. We also use Facility/Eportal very heavily, and I think your school does as well? We are already working with two other schools to further develop the Moodle/MIS/Active Directory integration as per our case study on this site.

I was previously an enterprise architect at BT Syntegra before joining Education as an IT Manager. But I agree that getting third party sign off, is going to be important. I have already flagged to the Head that we will need to legal support on our bid team

I did send an email to your school, as I would like to try and setup a meeting with you if possible. I am not wanting to share too much of our strategy on a public forum.

Many Thanks,

Tim

I agree with virtually everything posted in this thread and not for the first time find the doctrine that joining the contract to make it bigger will be more attractive to the contractor quite baffling, despite the fact that it is obviously true. Of course it is more attractive to the contractor, but so would be paying the contractor twice as much for everything. The best value doctrine is not concerned with the value to the contractor, it is meant to be the value to the public sector client body which is at stake. This means in principle there remains a question as to whether or not there exists a better value alternative.

The point I want to make is that this thread has fused, conflated if you will, two different issues. Much of what has been written in the thread is about the right of a school to opt out of the managed service provided by the LEP's contractor. That really is about the peculiarly English doctrine of the autonomy of the school, a doctrine which would make little sense in many other countries and administrations. Alongside that we are running an argument about the right of a school to use open source software, which latter I consider in value terms (to the school, not the contractor) to be a much stronger argument.

I cannot see why under a well specified managed service contract a school should not be able to opt to use open source systems, linux operating systems, a range of open source software and enjoy the financial benefits to the school of lower licensing costs. If the LEP managed service contract cannot deliver this, I think the argument that it is providing best value and appropriate flexibility is very weak. I do not find the argument that the school ought to use particular systems and software because that is what the contractor supports or that is what the other schools have chosen particularly compellingm on educational grounds. It is not readily apparent that proprietary software provides better value to the school than e.g. open office or Google Apps and an even handed approach would see the burden of demonstrating this transferred to the LEP and contractor.

I have been in the game long enough to remember when you could not spend more than 50 quid without LA permission and our services were all on contracts negotiated with the LA by contractors. The result was almost universally poor. Hence the creation of the LMS system. (Local Management of Schools). Since then, we have taken premises, catering and cleaning in-house in the face of opposition from the LA and we have never looked back.

The catering contract used by Steve Moss (here http://www.edugeek.net/forums/bsf/5971-bsf-email-steve-moss.html) is a useful comparator. In our case, the procurement and contract was no doubt a thing of great beauty but the food was swill being eaten by students with their fingers out of expanded polystyrene bowls. No doubt nutritionally balanced swill out of sterile containers at the appropriate temperature but it was swill nevertheless. The problem with the centrally negotiated contract was the fact that the consultants-managers-advisors.... etc etc had no real commitment to make the system really work on the ground. We have won awards on food since we took it in-house chiefly due to belief and commitment from the staff involved. IMHO, similar issues apply to managed service ICT contracts

Maybe you are correct about a properly setup contract but the PFS process does not involve the school in the technical part of the contract until it is too late. We create a Output spec in educational terms and the contract supplies the necessary sw and hw. The wishes of a school are watered down by all the other schools in the area. Regardless of what the 'local choice' fund allegedly allows, all the fundamentals of the system are done and dusted by the time any local choice happens. For example, the creation of a local data warehouse which is a key piece of vendor lock-in that shapes so much in many contracts. The limits of the options for OSS because the provider can simply say no to many things the school may want to do and point to aspects of the contract that allow them say no. The problem here is the whole ethos of OSS (which is that the user can adapt the sw to their own use.) is almost exactly contrary to the outsource model of the managed service.

An excellent example is the misunderstanding that some LAs and advisors seem to have about what a framework contract is and why it exists. A practical effect of this misunderstanding is that OSS is written out of the options for learning platforms.

I have friends working in several countries with both centrally managed education and without and those with the central management t envy the autonomy that LMS gave us. BSF is rolling that autonomy back and no good will come of it. Local control is not peculiar to England and to be honest, in the public sector we are continually being told by politicians of all shades, how we should emulate the private sector. One key difference (amongst many) between the public and private sector is in the degree of autonomy schools have.

If the LA provides a good service then schools will buy in. We buy in many excellent services from the LA. For example, legal services. In the case of ICT, the BSF process does not allow schools to see in any detail, what they are buying until after they have committed, this has led to market failure in terms of quality of service.

An underlying idea behind the way this process was designed is that IT in schools has been run by a bunch of amateurs and needs to be taken over by professionals. The 'professional' systems being used in some areas do not give me any confidence that this is a good process for procuring ICT.

If the managed service provided processor power and networking on tap where the use of them was the choice of the teacher in the classroom then that would be good. However the situation in at least one major BSF contract is that schools are ignoring the provided software and purchasing cloud based services in part because that is the way they can avoid having to go through the complex process of having locally processed software installed.

To summarise, you are right, there is a conflation of these two issues but that conflation is created by the PFS/BSF process.

 Brian Lockwood

IanL's picture

the situation in at least one major BSF contract is that schools are ignoring the provided software and purchasing cloud based services

What happens in 5 years time when all the curriculum support needed is free from the internet and accessible by smartphones which all learners have? (curiki.org, Alison and INGOTs to name but 3 have strategies to do this) Will we look back and see the BSF IT fiasco as an expensive white elephant? I can see developing countries in Eastern Europe, Malaysia and such simply leap frogging over the mire and thanking god they didn't waste billions entrenching expensive and soon to be obsolete technologies.

The fundamental political issue is whether you believe in freedom of individual institutions or central control. Freedom enables able innovators to do more with less but it also enables the weak to fail and luddites to stay entrenched. Central control should level things to the middle but that assumes the basic strategy is sound. So if you are an able innovator in IT you will probably hate BSF. If you are a middle of the road type you will probably like having stuff done for you and if you are a luddite you'll just hate any sort of change anyway. There's an election coming up so we all have a chance to vote :-)

johnyma22's picture

I posted a comment on video but here it is again:

Think the guy from a CLC has a great point RE innovation coming from individuals.Great to hear a familiar voice in Mark Chambers, very impressed Mark made it down to OSS conf, proves Bradford are willing to sit down and talk about BSF openly :)

Interesting about PFS being able to listen better than BSF contractors, is the message here to get PSF to review current infrastructure and relay a report onto BSF?

Wish there was clarity on whether a BSF school (including primary) can download and install software without an argument or contract change?

We've done loads of new build primary school ICT deployments, We don't need to be the size of RM.. I don't think you need a big player. We only employ 20, the thing is our 20 staff are purely focused on schools. I agree with the guy who spoke after the guy RE: RM.

I guess my architects have always been great, none of them have been BSF contracted architects though as far as I'm aware.

There are loads of small, specialist companies around, why don't RM just buy them when they win a contract?

Wish sound quality was a bit better but I'm not complaining!

tbateson's picture

We have setup a meeting with PfS. Which will be taking place before Christmas.

tbateson's picture

Quick update.

We met with PfS and our LA last week.

Basically, PfS will only work with a school that agrees to work within the LA management of the BSF process. So we will have to undertake all work to support our APBC under our own steam and our own money!

I am learning a lot more about the BSF funding process and I am working on a cost model and an executive summary of the BSF funding process.

Tim